Saturday, June 29, 2019

Glaring gaps even in works of Ram Swarup and Sita Ram Goel.


Assorted tweets:

Could a movie about the systemic discrimination against India’s Dalits be subtle – especially when the movie is filled with justifiable anger about caste atrocities in Uttar Pradesh, Gujarat, Haryana, Maharashtra and elsewhere?
https://t.co/Uiz7TDIszK #Article15
https://twitter.com/KarnikaKohli/status/1144442449093206016?s=19

Most IndoEuropean tribes did not remember where their homeland was by the time they composed literature. But the ancient Zoroastrian text Vendidad give a list of 16 ancestral lands, none of which are in mainland Iran, but most of them are spread over Afghan and & the Indus Valley https://t.co/hqoiIX0kyp
https://twitter.com/JoeAgneya/status/924904005678940161?s=19
An IE group which had Rig Vedic gods & spoke Sanskrit had 'nothing' to do with India! Tell me, who else in Sintahta spoke Sanskrit? Who else had peacocks on their emblems and Zebu? Oh wait....you dont know anything about the language of Sintashta! You guess and claim its science!
https://twitter.com/JoeAgneya/status/1144715912605421568?s=19
As with everything I say, I only intend to convey the gist of the topic in as few tweets as possible. For a proper understanding, do read 'Rig Veda: A historical analysis' by Shrikant Talageri. At the very least the chapter on the Indo-Iranian homeland.
https://twitter.com/JoeAgneya/status/924968862780497922?s=19

Their argument is that oldest inscription is found there. 
https://t.co/Fsiu9uJ7hs This was the article.
https://twitter.com/BramhaNad1/status/1144678376956841985?s=19

Also, all these works are available at a button click online for free now, still Hindus prefer Oak and even his modern successors. It is a sign of the sheer levels of intellectual degeneration that has set in. https://t.co/6YxNgSXs0U
https://twitter.com/ArmchairPseph/status/1144786878127697920?s=19
Savarkar, RC Mazumdar, Jadunath Sarkar, KAN Sastri, there were dozens of great H historians who did genuine, solid work much before Oak and his fakery. Don't show off your ignorance so blatantly. https://t.co/ZsZG7CtCSm

I have analyzed PN Oak's books, have reviewed the evidences he offered, and admit that some appear exaggerated. Yet, probabilistically, his claim of World Vedic Civilization is far more plausible than its negation by some neo-Hindutva intellectuals. https://t.co/HWSZ6iTnfY
https://twitter.com/SanjeevSanskrit/status/1144596562405761024?s=19
PN Oak made single most greatest contribution to preserving roots of non-communist History in most dark era with zero support. Proved Hindu roots of most Islamic architecture. Brought out dark secrets of Muslim Sultans. Even those who bash him today live on his alms.
All other icons of RW history - Ram Swarup, Sita Ram Goel - came AFTER PN Oak. Who was there before Oak to challenge communists? Even I differ with Oak on many things. But still he is a hero because in Data Science, trends matter not individual data point.
https://twitter.com/SanjeevSanskrit/status/1144602249403854849?s=19
There are glaring gaps even in works of Ram Swarup and Sita Ram Goel. Modern RW historians are more of apologists who specialize in twigs than having ability to understand trends.
The World Vedic view is not unique imagination of PN Oak. I can understand Koenraad Elst have ego issues with it because he perhaps believes himself to be an outsider giving gyan/ help to Sanatanis. Maybe those with inferiority complex need his services, definitely not me.
https://twitter.com/SanjeevSanskrit/status/1144604103156199426?s=19

This highlights the qualities thought as great in a leader. Sadly, it isnt true, but quite the opposite. These qualities Modi possesses & we can see the mistrust, non-cooperation, colossal mistakes, cover up, propaganda. India is sliding downhill rapidly.
https://t.co/gkjmSiqmxB
https://twitter.com/aayeff1/status/1144869187761758208?s=19

This kind of senseless, idiotic and brainless schemes from this government is making me feel ashamed for voting for this government. Mr.Modi, earlier you were against freebies and now you are coming up with one or other freebie everyday. Just introspect where are you heading. https://t.co/naBr0Q3lIJ
https://twitter.com/pmrithyunjaya/status/1144876209026691073?s=19

"Clubbing a courtesan with a mahatma may not immediately be understood or approved of by some. But that is precisely where the courtesan belongs, for, in the larger scheme of things and the big picture of our civilization, her role is no less significant.."  #mustread https://t.co/kLIRCOxXpx
https://twitter.com/rumiesque/status/1144836136142962688?s=19

In addition to my usual column, I have this little essay in Mint today on looking at history not through the eyes of "great heroes" and events always, but through women--courtesans, goddesses and their legends, and more. https://t.co/s0Ox7aM5RG
https://twitter.com/UnamPillai/status/1144829455459708928?s=19

The slow disappearance of independent editors from Indian media https://t.co/fSwoK0nrvN
https://twitter.com/seagullbooks/status/1144904165103034368?s=19

idea of foreign correspondents who can't speak any of the local languages, need fixers is dying , today much of readable work on india (or any other region) in the US/UK media etc is by indians (local residents) writing there, not by their correspondents.
https://t.co/draLPI4u1m
https://twitter.com/HartoshSinghBal/status/1144888179264315392?s=19

A must-read piece on the downward slide of Indian pluralism: https://t.co/ienB2tzrCK
https://twitter.com/Ram_Guha/status/1144814013768843264?s=19

Tolerance never existed in Christianism or Islam. Indian secularism was designed to fool people into thinking that those who tolerate other religions will be repaid with a equal and opposite tolerance of your beliefs. This was always a lie.
https://twitter.com/bennedose/status/1144843501042991104?s=19

"Judgment has always been fundamental to human society. The digital age has simply extended and intensified its application."
Book #Review 2: Alexander Hooke on Ziyad Marar's Judged - https://t.co/xGlkMMgbM0
#philosophy https://t.co/CKZQvynpyz https://t.co/MxnGuPDOMj
https://twitter.com/PhilosophyNow/status/1144892124707590144?s=19

Tribute to the Father of the Modern Statistics in India on National Statistics Day: https://t.co/t2SsrTL4d0
@drharshvardhan #NationalStatisticsDay @milindarolkar #Mahalanobis
https://twitter.com/eNewsBharati/status/1144891924056162304?s=19

Science has enabled us to disbelieve most of its findings and no firm assurance is available on how life and the world operates. All philosophical propositions similarly can be questioned. Religions are glorified superstitions. Sri Aurobindo, therefore, is the only reliable voice
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1144798467908235265?s=19

Educated Indians are under the spell of celebrity culture, thanks to Bollywood and Cricket. Mythology perpetuates a feudal environment and politics runs accordingly. Individuality and rationality must come to fore; Savitri Era Party is confident of ushering in such an atmosphere.
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1144801786705768448?s=19

Democracy is basically about choosing persons of better capability from among the masses. But elected representatives are turning out to be fundamentalists or ignorant. Awareness of Sri Aurobindo's philosophy should be a minimum criteria in order to establish a liberal atmosphere
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1144806272375508992?s=19

Intellectuals are unable to think in terms of fundamental changes and wrestle with minor reforms or improvements. Evolutionary inevitability announced by Sri Aurobindo gives us the assurance that drastic changes can take place at any moment even without adequate prior arrangement
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1144809589545660421?s=19

People of India must reject impositions done by the colonial regime. Each language claiming its inherent nationhood like the European countries is a basic need. Forming a loose federation of India should be a priority for all instead of Hindu, Muslim, or Backward castes activism.
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1144795138603962368?s=19

Marketime: Allegiance to the constitution concept is flawed https://t.co/ruv9sgX69G
Posted by Savitri Era Learning Forum (SELF - since 2005) for eradication of intellectual malnutrition. @NathTusar Director, SRA-102-C, Shipra Riviera, Indirapuram, Ghaziabad - 201014 (UP)
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1144783292870213632?s=19

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