Saturday, June 29, 2019

Glaring gaps even in works of Ram Swarup and Sita Ram Goel.


Assorted tweets:

Could a movie about the systemic discrimination against India’s Dalits be subtle – especially when the movie is filled with justifiable anger about caste atrocities in Uttar Pradesh, Gujarat, Haryana, Maharashtra and elsewhere?
https://t.co/Uiz7TDIszK #Article15
https://twitter.com/KarnikaKohli/status/1144442449093206016?s=19

Most IndoEuropean tribes did not remember where their homeland was by the time they composed literature. But the ancient Zoroastrian text Vendidad give a list of 16 ancestral lands, none of which are in mainland Iran, but most of them are spread over Afghan and & the Indus Valley https://t.co/hqoiIX0kyp
https://twitter.com/JoeAgneya/status/924904005678940161?s=19
An IE group which had Rig Vedic gods & spoke Sanskrit had 'nothing' to do with India! Tell me, who else in Sintahta spoke Sanskrit? Who else had peacocks on their emblems and Zebu? Oh wait....you dont know anything about the language of Sintashta! You guess and claim its science!
https://twitter.com/JoeAgneya/status/1144715912605421568?s=19
As with everything I say, I only intend to convey the gist of the topic in as few tweets as possible. For a proper understanding, do read 'Rig Veda: A historical analysis' by Shrikant Talageri. At the very least the chapter on the Indo-Iranian homeland.
https://twitter.com/JoeAgneya/status/924968862780497922?s=19

Their argument is that oldest inscription is found there. 
https://t.co/Fsiu9uJ7hs This was the article.
https://twitter.com/BramhaNad1/status/1144678376956841985?s=19

Also, all these works are available at a button click online for free now, still Hindus prefer Oak and even his modern successors. It is a sign of the sheer levels of intellectual degeneration that has set in. https://t.co/6YxNgSXs0U
https://twitter.com/ArmchairPseph/status/1144786878127697920?s=19
Savarkar, RC Mazumdar, Jadunath Sarkar, KAN Sastri, there were dozens of great H historians who did genuine, solid work much before Oak and his fakery. Don't show off your ignorance so blatantly. https://t.co/ZsZG7CtCSm

I have analyzed PN Oak's books, have reviewed the evidences he offered, and admit that some appear exaggerated. Yet, probabilistically, his claim of World Vedic Civilization is far more plausible than its negation by some neo-Hindutva intellectuals. https://t.co/HWSZ6iTnfY
https://twitter.com/SanjeevSanskrit/status/1144596562405761024?s=19
PN Oak made single most greatest contribution to preserving roots of non-communist History in most dark era with zero support. Proved Hindu roots of most Islamic architecture. Brought out dark secrets of Muslim Sultans. Even those who bash him today live on his alms.
All other icons of RW history - Ram Swarup, Sita Ram Goel - came AFTER PN Oak. Who was there before Oak to challenge communists? Even I differ with Oak on many things. But still he is a hero because in Data Science, trends matter not individual data point.
https://twitter.com/SanjeevSanskrit/status/1144602249403854849?s=19
There are glaring gaps even in works of Ram Swarup and Sita Ram Goel. Modern RW historians are more of apologists who specialize in twigs than having ability to understand trends.
The World Vedic view is not unique imagination of PN Oak. I can understand Koenraad Elst have ego issues with it because he perhaps believes himself to be an outsider giving gyan/ help to Sanatanis. Maybe those with inferiority complex need his services, definitely not me.
https://twitter.com/SanjeevSanskrit/status/1144604103156199426?s=19

This highlights the qualities thought as great in a leader. Sadly, it isnt true, but quite the opposite. These qualities Modi possesses & we can see the mistrust, non-cooperation, colossal mistakes, cover up, propaganda. India is sliding downhill rapidly.
https://t.co/gkjmSiqmxB
https://twitter.com/aayeff1/status/1144869187761758208?s=19

This kind of senseless, idiotic and brainless schemes from this government is making me feel ashamed for voting for this government. Mr.Modi, earlier you were against freebies and now you are coming up with one or other freebie everyday. Just introspect where are you heading. https://t.co/naBr0Q3lIJ
https://twitter.com/pmrithyunjaya/status/1144876209026691073?s=19

"Clubbing a courtesan with a mahatma may not immediately be understood or approved of by some. But that is precisely where the courtesan belongs, for, in the larger scheme of things and the big picture of our civilization, her role is no less significant.."  #mustread https://t.co/kLIRCOxXpx
https://twitter.com/rumiesque/status/1144836136142962688?s=19

In addition to my usual column, I have this little essay in Mint today on looking at history not through the eyes of "great heroes" and events always, but through women--courtesans, goddesses and their legends, and more. https://t.co/s0Ox7aM5RG
https://twitter.com/UnamPillai/status/1144829455459708928?s=19

The slow disappearance of independent editors from Indian media https://t.co/fSwoK0nrvN
https://twitter.com/seagullbooks/status/1144904165103034368?s=19

idea of foreign correspondents who can't speak any of the local languages, need fixers is dying , today much of readable work on india (or any other region) in the US/UK media etc is by indians (local residents) writing there, not by their correspondents.
https://t.co/draLPI4u1m
https://twitter.com/HartoshSinghBal/status/1144888179264315392?s=19

A must-read piece on the downward slide of Indian pluralism: https://t.co/ienB2tzrCK
https://twitter.com/Ram_Guha/status/1144814013768843264?s=19

Tolerance never existed in Christianism or Islam. Indian secularism was designed to fool people into thinking that those who tolerate other religions will be repaid with a equal and opposite tolerance of your beliefs. This was always a lie.
https://twitter.com/bennedose/status/1144843501042991104?s=19

"Judgment has always been fundamental to human society. The digital age has simply extended and intensified its application."
Book #Review 2: Alexander Hooke on Ziyad Marar's Judged - https://t.co/xGlkMMgbM0
#philosophy https://t.co/CKZQvynpyz https://t.co/MxnGuPDOMj
https://twitter.com/PhilosophyNow/status/1144892124707590144?s=19

Tribute to the Father of the Modern Statistics in India on National Statistics Day: https://t.co/t2SsrTL4d0
@drharshvardhan #NationalStatisticsDay @milindarolkar #Mahalanobis
https://twitter.com/eNewsBharati/status/1144891924056162304?s=19

Science has enabled us to disbelieve most of its findings and no firm assurance is available on how life and the world operates. All philosophical propositions similarly can be questioned. Religions are glorified superstitions. Sri Aurobindo, therefore, is the only reliable voice
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1144798467908235265?s=19

Educated Indians are under the spell of celebrity culture, thanks to Bollywood and Cricket. Mythology perpetuates a feudal environment and politics runs accordingly. Individuality and rationality must come to fore; Savitri Era Party is confident of ushering in such an atmosphere.
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1144801786705768448?s=19

Democracy is basically about choosing persons of better capability from among the masses. But elected representatives are turning out to be fundamentalists or ignorant. Awareness of Sri Aurobindo's philosophy should be a minimum criteria in order to establish a liberal atmosphere
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1144806272375508992?s=19

Intellectuals are unable to think in terms of fundamental changes and wrestle with minor reforms or improvements. Evolutionary inevitability announced by Sri Aurobindo gives us the assurance that drastic changes can take place at any moment even without adequate prior arrangement
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1144809589545660421?s=19

People of India must reject impositions done by the colonial regime. Each language claiming its inherent nationhood like the European countries is a basic need. Forming a loose federation of India should be a priority for all instead of Hindu, Muslim, or Backward castes activism.
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1144795138603962368?s=19

Marketime: Allegiance to the constitution concept is flawed https://t.co/ruv9sgX69G
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Wednesday, June 26, 2019

Sri Aurobindo is far wiser than the scientists


Assorted tweets:

India-#China Spiritual Kinship:
I was overjoyed to meet my old friend Dr Yu Longyu, renowned Indologist, Hindi teacher and head, Centre of Indian Studies, #Shenzhen University.
(L) Dr Wu Weilin, Sanskrit teacher; (R) Dr Zhu Xuan, Maharshi Aurobindo scholar. https://t.co/Q6NEFk9sQ1
https://twitter.com/SudheenKulkarni/status/1143867257962954752?s=19

The transformative potential in any age seems to lie in "the mind behind the mind". That Aurobindo's interesting way of putting what McGilchrist describes as the Master and the Emissary.
https://twitter.com/fourfoldvision/status/1143863909087993856?s=19
The "Mind behind the mind" I've also read described elsewhere as "the You of you". This is also Nietzsche's (and Jung's) "Self" and "Ego" distinction.  Evidently, this "Mind behind the mind" is what has traditionally referred to as "Soul".
Gebser calls this "Mind behind the mind" by the names "the Itself" or "the diaphainon". It would be the principle of integration.
The distinction between intentionality and will would then correspond to the distinction represented in this phrase "Mind behind the mind", which would relate as background and foreground, or context and text respectively.

Sri Aurobindo has criticised learning by snippets but most people including ardent followers and devotees seem to be satisfied with knowing him in snippets. There's palpable reluctance to understand his versatility and resistance against consulting multiple dimensions of his work
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1143922360770125824?s=19
Savitri Era Political Action: Sri Aurobindo points out that the real evolutionary force is supramental https://t.co/KV3ZsCsRFz
Aurora Mirabilis: Sri Aurobindo provides diverse perspectives to sense imperatives https://t.co/rCkPwtYBc6
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1143765737258926080?s=19

Namaskar,
I would like to share with you a short article of mine titled "Ramana Maharshi and the Socratic Method" recently published in the May-June 2019 issue of Direct Path, which is a magazine of the Ramana Kendra, New Delhi.
I will be glad if you can kindly take a look at the attached PDF and share your thoughts in this regard.
The full magazine and earlier issues are available on this link: http://www.ramanakendradelhi.in/direct-path.html
Thanks, Kushal.
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Ok, forgive me for being a bit critical.
One of the most frustrating things, for me, in the world of integral yoga is the tendency to take something said by Sri Aurobindo (in this instance, over 80 years ago) and apply it uncritically to something happening today.
Bhaga, I have no idea if this applies specifically to you, but I know many devotees who, when hearing the world “psychoanalysis” (or even worse, “psychotherapy”) will simply quote this letter you posted as if it is applicable, without any thought, to all therapy.
1. I think that Sri Aurobindo’s comment is perfectly applicable to he way psychoanalysis was practiced a century ago.
2. Almost no therapists practice psychoanalysis today as it was practiced a century ago.
3. Yet IY’ers will, upon hearing about therapy today, apply Sri Aurobindo’s comment as if it was fully applicable to the therapy of today.
I find this is the case with many many many things that Sri Aurobindo wrote a century ago. One of the comments of his that I keep very much in my consciousness when reading Sri Aurobindo refers to the fact that he completely deconstructed and reconstituted his entire “system” (that was his word) FOUR TIMES.
So people will quote something he wrote in 1900 as if it were intended to convey the exact same Consciousness as something he wrote in 1949.
This is religion.


hi again – hopefully the rest of the new dawn maintains infinite calm and peace in the cells, as always:>))
I am not aware of any therapists I have read about (and I try to keep a sense of how the process of therapy is going around the world, as much as possible, including groups with thousands of therapists globally) – I am not aware of any at least in the last quarter century who still maintain the old Freudian view, at least in the extreme form which Sri Aurobindo rightly critiqued from a century ago, but which by even the 1970s was dissolving and by the end of the 20th century – the idea that all can be explained by the vital – was pretty much gone.
now, there’s something much worse – which isn’t quite caught by His comments – that all can be explained by the purely physical. There are other comments from Sri Aurobindo, written even before WW 1, which to me are better refutations of materialism/positivism/physicalism/naturalism-fundamateralism – than anything I’ve seen from contemporary philosophers.
So of course I’m not saying nothing Sri Aurobindo wrote 100 years ago is applicable! Savitri is eternally young, just to mention one:>))
Just this particular point about psychoanalysis and explaining the higher Reality by the lower vital – and the fact that it has been almost obliterated as a point to be taken seriously is actually, I believe a tribute to Sri Aurobindo!!!


And what, according to Weinberg, is the ultimate explanation? “The more we discover about the universe, the more we realize it is pointless, meaningless.”
And thus, we have Sri Aurobindo, nearly a century ago, far far wiser than the scientists, with an infinitely deeper understanding of the limits of our current science than all but a few truly humble and sincere scientists.
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Friday, June 14, 2019

Even in retirement Sri Aurobindo was more active


Assorted tweets collated by Tusar Nath Mohapatra

We are working on various innovative projects and keep organisig various programs for learning Sanskrit and Indian Culture. Follow us if you are interested to participate and learn. @Sampadananda @beloome #LearnSamskritam @languagecurry

The Gurus come together for the Unmesa programme to teach Sanskrit, Ganit & Temple Architecture. This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity at Unmesa programme takes places at Sri Aurobindo Society, Puducherry, starting July 28, 2019! Follow the link. https://t.co/j9iW2L6ST6 https://t.co/X2PxLxBkuf

From today, we have started adding the entire publication catalogue of Indian Institute of Advanced Study, Shimla, to the #IBC site.
We will start posting threads subject-wise and today, it is #anthropology.
@IIASShimla @ShimlaIias @MakrandParanspe @IndicAcademy
Indigeneity Tales and Alternatives : Revisiting Select Tribal Folk Tales

But there is also another aspect to this particular issue. The Hindu's silence is killing him everywhere. I am personally all in favor of vocal Hindus anywhere & in any form, even tweets. Even Sri Aurobindo for eg. openly lent his voice during critical junctures like WW2 & Cripps
Even in "retirement", Sri Aurobindo was more active than any man alive! Even in his outer activities where other Sadhaks were involved in assisting, when they wud want to call it a day & he wud keep going. In his inward action of course there is no telling where to draw the line.

Inner Silence is meant only for those leading spiritual life-which is more than doing basic yogic practices daily. Others, who misunderstand this Silence for apathy from world affairs when they themselves r deep in sensual pleasures, r only fools. Agree fully with you.

Colonial cabling: internet fibre optic cables around the world trace out the routes of former empires. Imperialism didn’t stop with decolonisation: it just moved up to infrastructure level | @jamesbridle https://t.co/IHbUXXd7HV
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"In any profession, 90% of people are clueless but work by situational imitation, narrow mimicry & semi-conscious role-playing. Except social "science" and journalism where it is 99% and 100%, respectively." - @nntaleb

Right from 2013 we have been telling that Modi is not the right PM candidate and a vast country like India deserves a better qualified one. So nothing much is expected of him than vacating the chair in 2024. Those discovering his betrayal must check their own intellectual calibre
We sensed moderation in the approach of Modi govt and extended support. Apart from people like Jaitley or RSS, Reliance may be responsible for the middle path. Hindutva and Dynasty are aberrations and must be thrown away. Following Sri Aurobindo therefore is the most sensible way
Each religion is a bundle of superstition and people have no option than to carry forward that burden. They are fighting with each other without having any hand in creation of the religions. The Mother & Sri Aurobindo have clearly said about the end of the reign of all religions.
Reading has become a prominent avenue of riding the intellectual or aesthetic vehicle but language barriers are a reality. A vast population however manage their affairs without reading anything and many vocations don't need any rendevous with the alphabets. Visuals are to rule.

Publications

K. Ramakrishna Rao - 2019 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
“His work”, wrote Sri Aurobindo, “is a constant music of the overpassing of the borders, a chant-filled realm in which the subtle sounds and lights of the truth of the spirit give new meanings to the finer subtleties of life” (Prasad and Srivastava 

Anirban Ganguly, ‎Shiwanand Dwivedi - 2019 - ‎Preview
36. 37. May 2014. The episode of Sri Aurobindo visiting Shah's ancestral house was also narrated by Shah to the trustees of Sri Aurobindo Ashram, Puducherry, while on a visit to Puducherry in August 2015. In conversation with the authors.

Karen Armstrong - 2019 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
The most momentous debate on the Gita's significance, however, was conducted between Mohandas (Mahatma) Gandhi (1869–1948) and the scholar and poet Aurobindo Ghose (1872–1950), who were sharply divided about the legitimacy of 

Matthew J. Taylor - 2018 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
Aurobindo, S. (1993) Integral Yoga: Sri Aurobindo's Teaching & Method of Practice. Pondicherry, India: Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust. Bhagavad Gita 2:47 Accessed January 18,2018 at www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/2/ verse/47. Barron ...

2019 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
Aurobindo died in December 1950, and his work was continued by Richard until her death in November 1973. Several centers that promote Aurobindo's teachings have been established in the US; the two most significant are the Atmaniketan ...

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Isha Upanishad: the Methods of Realisation, Part 5, the Role of the Divine Will - The final two verses of the Isha Upanishad apply the divine standpoint to the evolutionary process of growth and spiritual development of the individual th...

Aesthetics like nutrition should seek the right-mix - The irony of disowning one's culture The New Indian Express-04-Jun-2019 It is not wise to confuse the treasures of our heritage with the Hindu religion as

8.3 Microbes and Illness - The normal human condition is a state filled with apprehensions and fears; if you observe your mind deeply for ten minutes, you will find that for nine o...

Catherine Prueitt hired by the University of British Columbia - Continuing the good news about Canada: Catherine Prueitt has accepted a position in at The University of British Columbia. Congratulations to her and to UBC!

Antithesis of Yoga - Antithesis of Yoga is a non-fiction novel about Auroville’s first 25 years. Jocelyn one of the early settlers in Auroville since 1969, chronicles the sto...

A Sellarsian solution for the self? - The conflict between Buddhism and qualitative individualism is a major difficulty for my own philosophy. In addressing that conflict, there … Continue read...

Geography and nature teach the primacy of diversity - Tweets in original by @SavitriEraParty and @NathTusar Five hundred years back, Copernicus was struggling to prove that planets are revolving around the Sun...

A Series Inspired by India’s Rebirth – 3 - Author: Beloo Mehra (2019). Published under the title ‘When Young India Awakes’ in Sri Aurobindo’s Action, Vol. 50 (2 & 3), pp. 16-19. Continued from Part 

Kusum-ben Nagda: In Memoriam by Anurag Banerjee - Dear Friends, On Sunday, 12 May 2019, one of the senior-most inmates of the Sri Aurobindo Ashram community as well as one of its most loved members breathe...

The Nature of Matter in Indian Thought – M S Srinivasan - In our earlier discussions on the nature of matter, we have studied in some details. The discoveries of New Physics in the series of articles, The Nature ...
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